AGW: It’s Never Been About Climate

19 Nov


From Democracy Now (oh dear!):

Organizers of the U.N. climate talks in Warsaw, Poland, are facing criticism for accepting corporate sponsorships from major car manufacturers, oil companies, steel manufacturers and coal firms. Meanwhile, the Polish Ministry of Economy has teamed up with the World Coal Association to put on a parallel “International Coal & Climate Summit,” also in Warsaw.

10 Responses to “AGW: It’s Never Been About Climate”

  1. Kevin Moore November 22, 2013 at 6:45 am #

    “Deniers”, Marc Morano & Co called bullshit artists and naive at conference.

  2. James November 22, 2013 at 9:55 am #

    “Professor Bob Carter”, perhaps the world’s most recognised climate denial meme (after Prof Jo Nova) has had his Climate Denial Meme status officially withdrawn by James Cook University. Not because of any flaw in his scientific reasoning which is virtually endorsed by all known scientists across the world, but because he speaks outside the permitted doctrine and probably people blame him for the whole catastrophe!

    His views on climate science do not fit with the dominant internet “meme” of climate denial, so roundly applauded here and abroad, and getting lots of Youtube views and facebook likes.

    And then there were pesky complaints and emails from disgruntled fans of the prophets-of-doom some of whom were actually scientists masquerading as pranksters just for the heck of it and maybe he once marked one of their essays a bit tough, but so what! Grow up babies.

    In years to come when everyone admits that the Great Global Warming Scare was just another crazy internet meme played out by schoolboys in the outer hebrides on their school laptops, Carter could have been seen as one of the rare beacons of academic honour and principle (or indeed a – taking on the establishment wearing only a hairshirt and a utility belt full of crusty raisins – salvaged from a ship off Lortenans Reef!. Instead, apparently, the spineless bureaucratic collective has ruined the Meme and sent its servants to scavage back the props! Its crazy and would NOT have happened under Howard or Menzies.

    The irony is that Bob Carter has been working there for years, and they only had to put up with him for a little bit longer in order to claim their glory (albeit post hoc or even ad hoc) and then pretend that really they had supported him all along. Thats how close we are to exposing the scam that is International Climate Change! Weeks away!

  3. gre77 November 27, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    Absolutely. An age of penetrated secrets came after a secretive party, a secretive religion and a secretive former trainee priest, and did for all of them – and of that we can celebrate! And climate change is part of it..a big part!

    A Catholic who cannot understand how a Muslim feels about his woman refused to apologise to that woman for her violated secrecy, and that was that – at least until Scott Morrison noticed and then there’d be trouble! A kind of border war with jakarta was thus begun and is now heating up, and only Abbott’s removal will abate it – and his assent to the Throne.

    Overseas, the Greenberg family are happily running a climate change agenda that is barely understandable…to even Masonic initiates.

    • Kevin Moore November 27, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

      Our Compulsory Indoctrination Centres [schools] which churn out educated idiots is a huge barrier to rational debate – in my opinion.

      From the Communist Manifesto –

      “Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that mans ideas, views and conceptions, in one word, mans consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life?
      What else does the history of ideas prove, than that intelllectual production changes its character in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of the ruling class.” page 72

      “There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc.,that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.” page73.


      “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an
      important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society
      constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”
      ― Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud. Quoted from Bernays’ 1928 book “Propaganda”

      • Kevin Moore November 29, 2013 at 8:09 am #

        Book review –


        How NATO hijacked the uprising in Libya for its own purposes



        “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society………” – Gaddafi’s downfall


        “….Campbell provides a detailed and all-sided analysis of the build-up to war: the economic crisis driving the Western powers; ever-increasing influence of the financial institutions and oil companies on governments; the tensions within the ruling circles in Libya, with the growth of a neo-liberal tendency that wanted to deal in the capitalist markets; the revolutionary upsurge throughout North Africa which finally spread to the East of Libya where there had been a historic opposition to Gaddafi.
        Particularly striking in the account is the emphasis given to the importance of the universities and to the intellectuals from the universities in the US, the UK and France – the “scholars” as Campbell calls them – who acted as a sounding board for both Gaddafi and for the Western governments.
        Gaddafi, despite his revolutionary pretensions, spent millions of dollars supporting Libyan students in Europe and the US rather than in Libya itself, where little rigorous scholarship was carried out. “Many of the Libyans who came out of Western institutions were loyal supporters of the most conservative sectors of Anglo-Saxon culture,” Campbell explains, and by 2011 there were 2,800 Libyan students in Britain alone. “Those who had been educated in elite Western universities dominated the bureaucracy and promoted Western-type democracy and neo-liberal reforms so that Libya could enjoy better relations with the US and Britain.”
        Gaddafi’s son Saif Al-Islam, who got a doctorate at the London School of Economics, became one of the most zealous of these reformers. Side-by-side with this gradual re-education of Libya’s students, top academics like Anthony Giddens of the LSE, Joseph Nye and other “experts” from the US such as Francis Fukuyama, Richard Perle and Robert Putnam, were taking a keen interest in Libya, arguing that it had been transformed and encouraging much closer dialogue.
        The author pursues his theory that these scholars played a key role in guiding not only the governments of the West, but also Gaddafi himself who was evidently fascinated by some of their ideas, especially Nye’s ideas on so-called “soft power”. Many of these scholars had travelled back and forth to Libya, to engage more closely with Gaddafi and his circle, none more so than the French self-styled philosopher Bernard-Henry Levy who had the ear of President Sarkozy of France. He claimed to be guiding the rebellion in Benghazi, and advising the French president at the same time.
        It was in the period after the ending of sanctions in 2003, that the momentum for neo-liberal reform, for dabbling in the money markets with funds from the Libyan Investment Authority and for trying to please Western governments began in earnest. “It was in this carnival of greed,” Campbell writes, “that the Libyan leadership entered. In the 1970s, Libya had been at the forefront of the nationalisation of Western petroleum interests. Now, in the era of neo-liberalism, Libya wanted to enter the game of energy trading, and was swallowed by it.”
        Gaddafi’s original programme after he took power in 1969 was to set up a regime of people’s power and direct popular democracy in the country but these ideas never found a real base among the workers, poor farmers and students, let alone the business people. Gaddafi’s inner circle stifled genuine social engagement, according to the author, while the Western-educated bureaucrats worked to bring Libya into the fold of “market reforms.”
        With his Green Book and his support for liberation movements (sometimes misguided as when he supported Idi Amin in Uganda), Gaddafi even tried to spread his ideas internationally, but in the end the ideology underpinning the revolution in Libya where a kind of state capitalism was set up, remained powerless in the face of globalisation, and was isolated.
        The “reforms” that were implemented after 2003, including a programme of privatisation, increased inequality and strengthened the social layers around the ruling circles. Class differences deepened. The trade unions were not independent and were largely ineffective, living conditions worsened, leading to the alienation of the mass of the people. When the explosion came, seized on and encouraged by the political Islamists and the regionalists in the East of the country, much of the original support for the regime had already evaporated.
        The oil corporations had remained suspicious of Gaddafi who continued to make rhetorical threats to nationalise the oil industry, while at the same time giving them new exploration and production-sharing contracts. It was these corporations – and the banks of course eagerly eyeing Libyan oil funds and trying to keep their head above water as the world slump gathered pace – that exerted all their powerful influence, directly and indirectly, for war.
        The book exposes the real forces at work within the Western powers, and how these nations managed to hide their aggressive agenda under the NATO umbrella. It undermines the myth that Western intervention was limited to air attacks alone. American and British special forces were active on the ground, guiding the militias and trying to locate the whereabouts of Gaddafi and his entourage. All kinds of high-tech devices were mustered to try to find him after he had fled to Sirte. His phones were tracked and voice recognition technology was used to confirm that he was there.
        And above him in the sky were American and French electronic warfare planes that could detect any movement below. Extra drones had been deployed by the Americans. The French claimed to have fired the missile that stopped Gaddafi’s car. It is evident from the account in the book, derived from Gaddafi’s bodyguard who survived and from other sources present as well as from all the mobile phone film and photos put onto the internet, that the operation to capture and execute Gaddafi with another of his sons, was synchronised by Western special forces on the ground.
        The “Responsibility to Protect” civilians was transformed into a licence to kill them. The last thing that the Western powers wanted was a negotiated settlement. Soon after the African Union announced that Gaddafi was willing to step aside in order to facilitate negotiations, he was indicted with his son by the International Criminal Court in June 2011, and the war went on…..”

        • Kevin Moore November 29, 2013 at 1:37 pm #

          “….Back in 1991, Martin Anderson of Columbia declared in his book Impostors in the Temple: American Intellectuals Are Destroying Our Universities and Cheating Our Students of Their Future that many professors are corrupting our impressionable students and, “while small in number, their influence is large and pervasive. They pretend to teach, they pretend to do original, important work. They do neither. They are impostors in the temple.”[49]
          Both Alan Dershowitz and Daniel Jonah Goldhagen are classic representations of those intellectuals who are destroying our universities and cheating our students of their future.”

  4. Kevin Moore November 29, 2013 at 7:17 am #

    “Climate Change: There is more than one side to the story.”

  5. RealD December 2, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    I love the way “Kevin Moore” always answers his own postings with an even loopier variant!

    Next he’ll be trotting off that old discredited Protocols of The Elders of Zion…hoax stuff…WOOPS!

    • Kevin Moore December 4, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

      The rank and file –
      PROTOCOL No. 9
      “In applying our principles let attention be paid to the character of the people in whose country you live and act; a general, identical application of them, until such time as the people shall have been re-educated to our pattern, cannot have success. But by approaching their application cautiously you will see that not a decade will pass before the most stubborn character will change and we shall add a new people to the ranks of those already subdued by us.

  6. Kevin Moore December 7, 2013 at 12:24 am #
    Earth Grab
    Geopiracy, the New Biomassters and Capturing Climate Genes
    LISTEN to an interview with author Diana Bronson on Radio Ecoshock.
    This three-part book ‘pulls back the curtain on disturbing technological and corporate trends that are already reshaping our world and that will become crucial battlegrounds for civil society in the years ahead.’
    Vandana Shiva, Founder, Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology.
    ‘Geopiracy’ analyses how Northern governments and corporations are cynically using growing concerns about the ecological and climate crisis to propose geoengineering ‘quick fixes’. These threaten to wreak havoc on ecosystems, with disastrous impacts on the people of the global South. As calls for a ‘greener’ economy mount and oil prices escalate, corporations are seeking to switch from oil-based to plant-based energy.
    ‘The New Biomassters’ exposes how a biomass economy based on using gene technologies to reprogramme living organisms to behave as microbial factories will facilitate the liquidation of ecosystems. This constitutes a devastating assault of the peoples and cultures of the South, accelerating the wave of land grabs that are becoming common in Africa, Asia and Latin America.
    ‘Capturing Climate Genes’ shows how the worlds largest agribusiness companies including Monsanto, BASF, Dupont and Syngenta are pouring billions of dollars into, and claiming patents on, what are claimed to be ‘climate-ready crops’. Far from helping farmers adjust to a warming world – something peasant farmers already know how to manage – these crops will allow industrial agriculture to expand plantation monocultures into lands currently cultivated by poor peasant farmers. These crops are not a solution to growing hunger, they will feed only the gluttony of corporate shareholders for profits.

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